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Aviv: It was in that context that we brought the awareness that in the self, and personal transformation and evolution, that the idea that an enlightened living is an enlightened living in the sense of us becoming vessels where possibilities can expand, rather than where possibilities get diminished and shrink.
So we talked about the 21 different moves we each make, and we are - each one of us - we are masters of catalyzing shrinkage moves, because we live in a world, and in this world if we don't sometimes shrink what's coming our way, we'll be overwhelmed. So we have been trained from an early age how to shrink big things into smaller things. We dismiss something as not being important, we make ourselves bigger, and the other thing smaller, and so on, and so on.
The problem is that if we are not careful, the loom of shrinkage practices that we use as a toolkit to survive in the world - we become our own victims when it comes to the arena of development and transformation where we seek to discover our own possibility.
Jeff: I feel very deeply the evolutionary value of this topic right now. Without going on a tangent, I want to seed, maybe for future conversation, the word infinite-ization. Because I've noticed that what's happening is - pretty much wherever I look - what we thought was finite is infinite.
I think in terms of all the ways in which we try to take the infinite All and turn it into something bite-sized and somehow separate, so that we can analyze and distinguish one thing from another - as if there are two things.
How I would propose that we see ourselves in this idea, that to live into the frontiers of enlightenment and possibility is to seek to become portals of the transfinite of possibility, and all that’s emerging, instead of becoming dead-enders of possibility.